Jeanine Menze fell in love with airplanes as a little girl in Jamaica, watching them take off and land at the local airport.
At 18, she set out to register for her first flight lesson at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla.
But she got discouraged when she saw that the people lining up for aeronautical science classes were mostly white and male.
"I panicked," she said in a StoryCorps conversation last month. "I don't see anyone that looks like me, and I felt like I didn't belong."
She tried her hand at coding — there were a few women in that line. But, a year later, she knew she wasn't where she was meant to be, and registered for an introductory flight lesson at an airport down the street. Seeing a woman flight instructor there boosted her confidence.
There, she said, she took off at the controls of a Cessna Skyhawk and flew over the Everglades.
"I was hooked," Menze said.
In 2005, Menze was awarded her Wings of Gold, signifying her graduation from advanced flight training and became the first Black woman aviator in the U.S. Coast Guard.
But, once again, she felt out of place. Then, two years later, La'Shanda Holmes came along.
"It was so long that I'd been in the Coast Guard already being the only Black female," Menze told Holmes. "I wanted a partner. I wanted somebody else there. So, when I met you, I saw myself."
In 2010, Holmes graduated flight school, becoming the first Black woman helicopter pilot for the Coast Guard and the military branch's second Black woman pilot.
Traditionally, family or friends pin new Wings of Gold on the student pilots at their graduation ceremony. But when an emotional Menze joined Holmes on stage, she had another idea.
"I wanted to make some sort of gesture to say that we're all gonna be there for each other — all the other black and brown girls that were gonna be coming up behind us. And immediately I thought the best way to do that was ... you are going to have my wings."
The best way to express that, she thought, was to pass her Wings Of Gold onto Holmes.
"As you are putting the wings on my chest, I felt like I was Wonder Woman," Holmes said. "I was so proud. I was proud to be a woman. I was proud to be Black. I was proud to know you."
"You've changed my mind about what's possible."
There are 800 pilots in the Coast Guard. Since Holmes graduated from flight school, the number of Black women pilots in the maritime branch has grown to six — with more waiting in the wings.
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Time now for StoryCorps' Military Voices Initiative - today, a conversation between the first Black female pilot in the United States Coast Guard and the second. Commander Jeanine Menze became a pilot in the Coast Guard in 2005. She felt out of place until Lieutenant Commander La'Shanda Holmes came along.
LA'SHANDA HOLMES: What did that mean to be the first?
JEANINE MENZE: It was so long that I'd been in the Coast Guard already being the only Black female. I wanted a partner. I wanted somebody else there. So when I met you, I saw myself.
HOLMES: You were so welcoming. I just was hanging on your every word. And I thought, she looks like me. She's got lips like me. And she's flying the biggest aircraft we have in the Coast Guard (laughter).
MENZE: I'm curious what you remember about when I took you flying for the first time.
HOLMES: I was a little scared because when you look in a cockpit, all the switches and the buttons and levers - it's overwhelming.
MENZE: I remember your face looked like sheer terror (laughter). Once you were at the controls for a little bit, you start to relax. And you had the biggest smile on your face. It was just beautiful for me to see. So fast-forward two years, and you are on stage about to graduate from flight school. I could not contain my emotion.
HOLMES: We walk up, and we were just looking at each other holding hands.
MENZE: I wanted to make some sort of gesture to say that we're all going to be there for each other, all of the other Black and brown girls that were going to be coming up behind us. And immediately I thought the best way to do that was you were going to have my wings.
HOLMES: And as you are putting the wings on my chest, I felt like I was Wonder Woman. I was so proud. I was proud to be a woman. I was proud to be Black. I was proud to know you.
MENZE: I wanted you to get there as much as you wanted to get there because I wanted you with me.
HOLMES: You've changed my mind about what's possible. So I felt I owed it to you and I owed it to myself.
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SIMON: Coast Guard pilots La'Shanda Holmes and Jeanine Menze. Since La'Shanda's graduation from flight school, the number of Black female pilots in the Coast Guard has grown to six, with more waiting - well, if you please - waiting in the wings.
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